• 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...

    From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to All on Thursday, February 08, 2024 23:12:00
    Is there any reason to run these instead of the 16 bit counterparts? Other than maybe with a 64 bit OS? I've been considering running them for a while, but haven't tried yet or heard from anyone who is. If they're more stable,
    or whatever it might be worth it... Let me know if anyone has tried the NT versions of these. I'd guess they wouldnt' require a fossil and would use door32.sys, but I don't know.

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Saturday, February 10, 2024 13:15:53
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Thu Feb 08 2024 11:12 pm

    Is there any reason to run these instead of the 16 bit counterparts?

    They're generally more stable and often faster (depending on the environment/emulation required to run 16-bit DOS doors on whatever platform your BBS is running). Also, since BBSes these days use TCP sockets to communicate with their users and many/most 32-bit DOS doors directly support socket I/O, that makes the entire communication path much simpler and easier to setup/support.
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Rob Swindell on Saturday, February 10, 2024 16:43:00

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Rob Swindell said:

    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games... By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Thu Feb 08
    2024 11:12 pm

    Is there any reason to run these instead of the 16 bit counterparts?

    They're generally more stable and often faster (depending on the environment/emulation required to run 16-bit DOS doors on whatever
    platform your BBS is running). Also, since BBSes these days use TCP
    sockets to communicate with their users and many/most 32-bit DOS doors directly support socket I/O, that makes the entire communication path much simpler and easier to setup/support. -- digital man (rob)

    Ok, this will give me something to do. I will report results shortly.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Rob Swindell on Saturday, February 10, 2024 20:30:00

    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Thu Feb 08 2024 11:12 pm

    Is there any reason to run these instead of the 16 bit counterparts?

    They're generally more stable and often faster (depending on the environment/emulation required to run 16-bit DOS doors on whatever platform your BBS is running). Also, since BBSes these days use TCP sockets to communicate with their users and many/most 32-bit DOS doors directly support socket I/O, that makes the entire communication path much simpler and easier to setup/support. -- digital man (rob)

    The more important question is has anyone gotten this to work? I can't.
    It's ignoring all command line options.

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    (ports 22, 23, 110, 21, 119) (ssh: login bbs password shsbbs)


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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sunday, February 11, 2024 01:43:04
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Rob Swindell on Sat Feb 10 2024 08:30 pm

    Is there any reason to run these instead of the 16 bit counterparts?

    They're generally more stable and often faster (depending on the environment/emulation required to run 16-bit DOS doors on whatever platform your BBS is running). Also, since BBSes these days use TCP sockets to communicate with their users and many/most 32-bit DOS doors directly support socket I/O, that makes the entire communication path much simpler and easier to setup/support. -- digital man (rob)

    The more important question is has anyone gotten this to work? I can't. It's ignoring all command line options.



    what doorgames?
    you mean GAC\vagabond software games?
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Sunday, February 11, 2024 15:35:00

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jas Hud said:

    To: Martin Kazmaier Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games... By: Martin Kazmaier
    to Rob Swindell on Sat Feb 10 2024 08:30 pm

    Is there any reason to run these instead of the 16 bit
    counterparts?

    They're generally more stable and often faster (depending on the environment/emulation required to run 16-bit DOS doors on whatever platform your BBS is running). Also, since BBSes these days use
    TCP
    sockets to communicate with their users and many/most 32-bit DOS
    doors
    directly support socket I/O, that makes the entire communication
    path
    much simpler and easier to setup/support. -- digital man (rob)

    The more important question is has anyone gotten this to work? I
    can't.
    It's ignoring all command line options.



    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?
    The 32 bit NT versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sunday, February 11, 2024 22:21:39
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Sun Feb 11 2024 03:35 pm


    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?
    The 32 bit NT versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!

    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Monday, February 12, 2024 09:42:00

    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games... By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Sun Feb
    11 2024 03:35 pm


    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?
    The 32 bit NT versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!

    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yes, I told you exactly what door games. The 32 bit versions of GAC
    FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!, which are IBBS games. They are indeed the GAC/Vagabond door games. There are 32 bit versions included in the archives:

    gacbj230.zip, gacfc130.zip and gacwh130.zip

    I can't get them to work, only the 16 bit versions. None of them pay any attention to command line options and have to be ran as is in the dropfile directory, so I can't send the -handle followed by the handle command line option to the gac_bj32.exe (or replace bj with fc or wh) program
    executables... Has anyone been able to get these to work?

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    (ports 22, 23, 110, 21, 119) (ssh: login bbs password shsbbs)


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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Monday, February 12, 2024 11:34:00

    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games... By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Sun Feb
    11 2024 03:35 pm


    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?
    The 32 bit NT versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!

    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?

    vbsoft.dhakota.org is resolving, but not answering. I tried http:// as well.
    I was hoping to find some answers there.

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    (ports 22, 23, 110, 21, 119) (ssh: login bbs password shsbbs)


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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Monday, February 12, 2024 21:14:56
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Feb 12 2024 09:42 am


    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yes, I told you exactly what door games. The 32 bit versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!, which are IBBS games. They are indeed the GAC/Vagabond door games. There are 32 bit versions included in the archives:

    gacbj230.zip, gacfc130.zip and gacwh130.zip

    I can't get them to work, only the 16 bit versions. None of them pay any attention to command line options and have to be ran as is in the dropfile directory, so I can't send the -handle followed by the handle command line option to the gac_bj32.exe (or replace bj with fc or wh) program executables... Has anyone been able to get these to work?


    they are pretty shitty old games, and i'm not sure they run correctly in
    32bit in the telnet age. you can talk to deuce and see if he ever messed with them.

    i have however ran other opendoors doorgames. maybe the tourney trivia command lines would work for you.

    --BEGIN--
    EleBBS:
    ------
    Assuming c:\doors\DOORGAME is your DOORGAME directory, and c:\ele is
    your EleBBS directory, use a command line of:

    c:\doors\DOORGAME\DOORGAME32.exe -n *N -d c:\ele\NODE*N\door32.sys -socket *W

    In order for this door to work properly, you may need to lower the value for
    Modem >> Telnet >> Start Node# in ELCONFIG, since this door does not support
    node numbers higher than 99.

    WINDOWS 95/98/ME: Do *NOT* use a batch file to call this door. Doing so
    will not work on these operating systems. The door switches to its own
    directory upon start-up anyway; thus there is no need for a batch file!
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Monday, February 12, 2024 21:15:32
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Feb 12 2024 11:34 am



    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?
    The 32 bit NT versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!

    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?

    vbsoft.dhakota.org is resolving, but not answering. I tried http:// as well.
    I was hoping to find some answers there.

    Yeah he's done with bbsing. don't try to contact him, please.
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Tuesday, February 13, 2024 03:48:00
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: 32Bit GAC IBBS Games... By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Feb
    12 2024 09:42 am


    what doorgames? you mean GAC\vagabond software games?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yes, I told you exactly what door games. The 32 bit versions of GAC FreeCell, BlackJack and Wahoo!, which are IBBS games. They are indeed
    the
    GAC/Vagabond door games. There are 32 bit versions included in the archives:

    gacbj230.zip, gacfc130.zip and gacwh130.zip

    I can't get them to work, only the 16 bit versions. None of them pay
    any
    attention to command line options and have to be ran as is in the
    dropfile
    directory, so I can't send the -handle followed by the handle command
    line
    option to the gac_bj32.exe (or replace bj with fc or wh) program executables... Has anyone been able to get these to work?


    they are pretty shitty old games, and i'm not sure they run correctly in 32bit in the telnet age. you can talk to deuce and see if he ever messed with them.

    i have however ran other opendoors doorgames. maybe the tourney trivia command lines would work for you.

    --BEGIN-- EleBBS: ------ Assuming c:\doors\DOORGAME is your DOORGAME directory, and c:\ele is your EleBBS directory, use a command
    line of:

    c:\doors\DOORGAME\DOORGAME32.exe -n *N -d c:\ele\NODE*N\door32.sys
    -socket *W

    In order for this door to work properly, you may need to lower the value for
    Modem >> Telnet Start Node# in ELCONFIG, since this door does not
    support node numbers higher than 99.

    WINDOWS 95/98/ME: Do *NOT* use a batch file to call this door. Doing
    so will not work on these operating systems. The door switches
    to its own directory upon start-up anyway; thus there is no need
    for a batch file!

    I get unable to access serial port. I'm using -handle *W (as the gac docs
    say) and -c pointing to the config file. -socket *W gave me the same error.

    Thanks much, man! Has anyone been able to get these working? I'll stick
    with 16 bit, but I like as many 32 bit doors as possible...

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